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26 June 2015 @ 02:48 am
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Anyone playing Batman: Arkham Knight? I'd like some folks to fanbrat with :D

- I don't like Scarecrow's new voice. He sounds too much like Hugo Strange over the speakers. But hot damn do I dig his new style.

- Speaking of style, Zsasz still seems to be running around in the same clothes.

- As does Ivy, with the exception that she's done up her hair. (Something Victor would have trouble with...)

- Harley is so cute. For the first time I really like her style, even if I still can't stand her voice. (Harleen's is okay though.) Wonder why she's working together with Pengy. He stuffed her hyenas, fer Chrissakes.

- Riddler! Omg, you precious thing. Never stop being your splendid, adorkable self. Crawling around Gotham and installing racetracks. These Batvillains are the greatest.

- Are we going to see Deadshot and Anarky again? We're seeing Firefly (who was only in Origins) and Azrael, so why not them?

- Batracing! This game is like GTA and Tekken, only better, because it has riddles, and Batvillains. I love the characters. All of them. Well, maybe not broody Brucie too much, but still. Conroy's voice acting is amazing, as is Hamill's, but we already knew that.

- Joker! I was so sad when they killed him off in Arkham City, but they found an ingenious way of bringing him back while at the same time leaving him dead. I love his running commentary so much! Also, the Joker Infected. Why would the game want me to find a cure for them?

Crossposted from dreamwidth.
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 26th, 2015 10:33 pm (UTC)
Continuing from Tumblr, because screw their text posts, they're too fussy and long! XD

I got all the Arkham games after they'd been out a while, so I could get the Game Of The Year editions with all the extra content. I'm not sure when I got Asylum and City, it's been at least 18 months since I played either, but I got Origins for Christmas last year, so it's a bit more fresh in my mind. But apparently I've forgotten everything that happens in City, because I don't remember any of that! XD I do remember the underground cult/city place, but that's about all the al Ghul stuff I can apparently recall. Maaaaaan, I need to replay the series from the beginning

Oh God, I don't even try for trophies and completion and stuff, I know I'd drive myself up the wall! I did decide, randomly, to try for completion on Origins, but then there was some sort of glitch (which apparently is pretty common, according to Google) where it's impossible to collect all the Riddler trophies because the game doesn't register a certain area, even when you've cleared it. So I took that as a sign that I should stick to just breezing through the story and move on!

I suck at stealth. There's a certain point where I'm always like "fuck it" and I just charge at the bad guys. Especially if they have scramblers, because I like living in detective mode and taking down those shiny orange skeletons, it solves a lot of my vision problems

I KEEP FORGETTING THAT YOU CAN TAKE SCREENCAPS WITH THE PS4!! I need to figure out how to set that up, because cutie Dick sitting on piles of money DESERVES a screencap, you are so right!!

Also, I've heard some thugs talking about how the Joker apparently killed a Robin, but Robin's still out there, so they don't know if Joker was lying or not. Which lends even more support to our theory! ;) I love the change in random thug dialogue once the Penguin mission is active, so many random bad guys discussing Nightwing's merits as a superhero, and I'm glad to hear they consider him a real threat - usually Lone Wolf Bruce means every other member of the Batfamily is dismissed as being non-threatening and useless to make Bruce look better. Also, I haven't heard any gross sexual remarks about Selina, thank God. Heard enough of that in City to last me a lifetime!

I like to imagine people notice Eddie's shenanigans but choose to ignore him. I also like to imagine he giggles to himself while he sets up his trophies and traps, and people just sigh and whisper "leave him be, he isn't hurting anyone, at least this keeps him occupied". I LOVE it when he's all "HOW DID YOU - well, I - you must have GUESSED - or CHEATED - yes, that's it, you CHEATED - bluster bluster - well, the next one is REALLY HARD, so THERE!!!" Ooh, Eddie, you special snowflake

I want the Red Hood extension tooooo! But it was only if you ordered it from Game, and they were £10 more expensive than Amazon, so bleh. I'll wait until it comes down in price on the PS store, maybe tell myself I'm not allowed to buy any new content until I've replayed the others. But the season pass is a good deal, it's veeery tempting

I STILL haven't gotten to the Harley mission!! I've completed Two Face, done a whole bunch of other stuff, and I've just ... Umm, I don't know how to say it without being spoilery. Even though I'm pretty sure you're waaaaay ahead of me. I'm gonna try a spoiler cut, hope this works, but gonna keep it vague-ish too just in case: [spoilers]I woke the plant. Stopping for the night now, hoping to finish the main story tomorrow. I need to figure out how to take down those stupid helicopters though, they're annoying me

I LOOOOVE what they've done with the Joker. He's so fun like this, when he's just making bizarre comments and showing up posing against the furniture, although FUCK the bit that happens at random when you're grappling and you go to pull yourself up a ledge and he bursts into view, urgh, it scared the CRAP out of me!! I know there were complaints about Origins and how it turned out that Joker was the main villain yet again, so I think this way of having him in the game was a nice change of pace, and it's giving Hamill a chance to really have fun and let rip!
payasocrookedspoon on June 27th, 2015 12:53 am (UTC)
because screw their text posts, they're too fussy and long! XD
That's what I thought xD

Getting the GOTY versions was a perk of coming to the Arkham games so late, lol. I like additional content, but I don't like paying for it.

lol, I haven't actually completed anything yet. For example, I haven't even completed the Identity Thief (Hush) and Watcher in the Wings (Azrael) side-quests in City, and even less in Origins. Oops. But some trophies that are doable for an extremely Casual gamer, they're a nice incentive to replay a game. Ick, that sucks with Origins. Is that a general bug or one that happens only in some games?

I'm okay with stealth, I guess, but it takes so long. Detective Mode is the best thing ever. And now you can even navigate to your checkpoints with it! It's also neat that they're giving each playable character a different look to their see-though mode. I'm ambivalent about the Detective Mode in the Harley DLC, though. [Vague comment ahead, if you havent played it yet.]On the one hand it's a cute idea and the visuals are great, on the other I worry about the presentation of the character and mental illness.

I got my PS4 with the game, so I'm still learning the ropes. (It took me forever to find out where I find the goddamn map and the Wayne Tech stuff. Turns out the thing in the middle is button too! Who'da thunk? xD) Here's my first screenshot, because wtf? This is what the GCPD does with their time? And here's Dick. xD

Oh, Joker also discusses the merits of Tim and mentions Jason Todd, who was always whining and stuff! ;D I love the random thug comments in general. They always say how Harley's nuts or crazier than the Joker and how Scarecrow gives them the creeps or that he has issues (serious issues!) and how they prefer Riddle guy talking instead of Scarecrow. It all fills me with warmth. And yeah, it's great they're not just intimidated by the Big Bad Bat. Hm, there seem to be less sexual remarks in general?

Aww, yes, that's actually pretty sweet. (Except, he *is* hurting people when he sets up his Riddler Hostage Courses. I mean, those totally reminded me of Saw. I kept wondering does he actually try those out himself before he lets Batman do them? And if so, how fucking skillful must he be?) Or, "If this one's too HARD for you, you're allowed to look online for an answer. It just shows that MY intellect is SUPERIOR blah blah" xD Honestly, these games have made love all the characters so much more.

I read they want to make all the extensions available after a certain amount of time, so hopefully we'll get the things within that 6 month period.

Ah, yes, the plant. (It was very amusing to race through Gotham and take half its architecture with me when I had Ivy in the backseat xD I had some tank battles too.) I've got 41% of the whole game, have to check how much of the main story that actually is. But I'm still with Harley. I've only completed Azrael so far. I'm torn between wanting to breeze through the game (and have a greater basis to write all the fanfic!! xD plus, less accidental spoilers to come across) and taking my sweet time, because it's the last game.

I need to figure out how to take down those stupid helicopters though, they're annoying me
Sometime during the main story you're supposed to jump on some sort of controller drone where you'll get some access codes after which you'll be able to disable the choppers for a minute with your Remote Hacking Device.

Yay, maxed out the character limit. Behold my excitement xD
payasocrookedspoon on June 27th, 2015 01:00 am (UTC)
and he bursts into view, urgh, it scared the CRAP out of me!!
He didn't scare me as much as Manbat(?) did!

I thought it was really sweet to have some more Black Mask, but then it turned out to have been the Joker all along. (On a sidenote I'm very distraught that I can't find a picture anywhere of the scene in which Black Mask stubs out his cigarette/cigar on the Blackgate guard's eye. It was my favourite scene!) I've also watched a Youtube video about the 7 biggest DNWs for Arkham Knight, and Joker was one of them xD They wanted him to be dead, period. And I agree with that, but the prospect of having no Joker at all was kinda saddening. The Arkham Knight comics made me a bit hopeful though, [Spoiler (click to open)]when Joker's corpse still had a surprise in store for the coroners, lol. It's unrelated to the story in the game, but still, it gave you an inkling he might not be wholly irrelevant. (Well, of course he wouldn't be if Harley's in the game xD) And anyway, Joker is DC's cash cow, how could they leave him out? And he's so much fun! "When did Catwoman get to be this cute? It probably happened when I started looking out of your eyes." It's a lot of mindfuckery and it brings the "I'm you, you're me" theme between those two on a whole new level. I also love that this way they tie what happened in the previous game to this one, just as they did with the Titan virus that carried over from Asylum. I like it when actions have consequences. :D

And thanks for the podficcing permission! I'll be sure to drop you a link when I finish something :D

As for games, I usually get everything second hand and years after the release date too. If not for the Arkham Knight I probably wouldn't have bought a PS4 before the next gen was out xD I have a friend who'll be getting the game afaik. Her boyfriend has alread complained about the postponing of the game. But she's not so very into DC, so I can't squee with her as well about Eddie and Dick and the other guys and gals xD
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 27th, 2015 04:06 pm (UTC)
I'm so the same! Like, gimme all the DLC, but I don't want to actually pay for it, urgh! XD

In City and Origins, I think I completed most of the big name side quests that had a story and a main villain, but not the smaller ones, and not the fiddly ones like the Riddler trophies. In Asylum, I didn't complete many, mostly because I wasn't used to the game yet, and didn't really understand them all - City was much easier to get into the swing of. But Asylum was also one of the first games I played on the PS3, so I might just have been rusty, since I hadn't played anything in a while up to that point. Also, I kept saying I'd go back and figure out the side missions later, and then I hit the point of no return in the story, so whoops! XD

Apparently it's a common glitch in my copy of Origins, enough that there were LOTS of results for it in Google. Don't know if it's across all the copies, though.

I don't remember much about the Harley DLC for City, beyond being excited to play as Tim, and constantly taking down streams of guards and waiting to get Harley alone, only to eventually realise they'd keep respawning until I took her down. XD But it rings a bell, there being unpleasant comments about her. :(

Oh my God, that stupid giant middle button!! I got my PS4 last summer when The Last Of Us Remastered was released, and I ONLY JUST realised you can also use that middle thing as a touchpad, like on a laptop, when you're using a keyboard! I got my PS3 after about 5 YEARS of dithering over whether to get it, so when the PS4 was released I was like "I'm not waiting this time, I'm gonna get it as soon as the first price cut happens". Which I did. ;)

Your screenshots are precious!! Dick on his throne of money! And I noticed that - well, the police gotta do SOMETHING while they're holed up in the precinct! XD

Oh my God, I'd forgotten how awful those Riddler things were in City, very Saw indeed! Glad he's not torturing innocent hostages this time around, although it still sucks that he's taken Selina.

I've finally done the Harley mission!! And on the one hand YAY HARLEY!! But [spoilers for Harley mission]she's barely in it, and gets taken down with one punch! And oh GOD, the stuff with Jason is just AWFUL. I mean, I get they wanted to make it clear why he's turned so sharply from the Robin ideals and is trying to destroy Bruce (assuming our guess is correct, but at this point I don't see how it COULDN'T be) and they don't want to use the Lazarus Pit excuse, but do we really need to see and hear all that!? DX I mean, it was bad enough they made us relive the Killing Joke stuff with Babs (although thankfully they didn't turn it sexual like in the comics) but the Joker had Jason like that for SIX MONTHS of non-stop pain?!? So horrible. D:

I've completed the Penguin, Two Face and Man Bat missions. Maybe some others, I can't remember. Man Bat took me FOREVER, because he's so hard to catch (and YESSS he scared me bad too). And at this rate I'm never gonna complete Firefly, because he's too fast for me - I've encountered him sooooo many times, but only managed to hit him once. :( Been taking down lots of tanks and towers, but I really need to crack on with the main story if I want to finish it by tonight. Just about to [vagueish spoilers]investigate the seismic activity. Still got about a third to go, I think.

You can squee with me as much as you want, I'll be here to squee right back! XD
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 27th, 2015 04:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to say! [spoilers for the entirety of the penguin mission]After all my happiness that they had the random thug dialogue referring to Dick as a threat and scary in his own right, they not only had to go and have him get kidnapped, but then he gets snuck up on by Oswald mouth-breather Cobblepot!?! Urgh, gotta make sure everyone knows Bruce is the best and his sidekicks are all hostage fodder. >:( But I do appreciate the random comments about Pengy's accent and how ridiculous he sounds and how he's probably never even been to London in his life, I giggle every time I hear that.

Urgh, waiting for my controller to recharge. The PS4 controllers have AWFUL battery life, especially compared to the PS3 ones.
payasocrookedspoon on June 27th, 2015 06:24 pm (UTC)
It's very funny how those spoiler tags don't work SHIT in the e-mail notifs, argh xD I agree about those comments. Also, the time Joker mimicked the accent! That was priceless xD

Those controllers are the equivalent to iPhones in the realm of mobiles.

I've actually completed all the riddles in Asylum. With a little help from Youtube. Because finding those chattering teeth took me forever. My first game on the PS3 was Injustice: Gods Among Us xD But I think it's kinda sad they don't have this awesome FreeFlow mode like the Arkham games.

Oh, I meant the Harley DLC for Knight, where you play as her. I kinda liked Tim's look with the hood up better, lol. Does he actually have close-cropped hair like that? I only remember images where all the Batbrats kinda look the same and only differ in height xD

lol, my PS4 told me I could it as a touchpad when I wanted to sign in to the PSN. I'm not much of a gamer so I was pretty indifferent to all those consoles. Although, because I used to play Pokemon, I have a lot of Nintendo stuff for someone who doesn't play much orz All these consoles are way too expansive and I'm cheap as hell. Though I thought "Screw it, I need this game and I'm not gonna be able to wait until next year to get it. It has Harley in it!!" So, now I'm happy although my wallet is on the brink of death xD

How did he manage to take Selina anyway? This "suddenly woke up somewhere" trope is too convenient xD Also, why are there no female thugs? You have female supervillains, but no henchwomen? How boring xD

So, I'm still in the middle of the Harley mission, about 67%. Just took out Christina Bell last night, but then I had to write shortfic xD (Boy, was this an insta-ship. I mean, a female Joker, How hot is that? xD) And this other fic won't let me edit it the way I want to, so there won't be much gaming tonight, until I've rewritten the thing. :(

Good luck with the main story! Also, since you're ahead of me now: wtf was this with Barbara? I don't actually believe she's dead. Why didn't Batsie take the body out of this fish tank and take her to Gordon or something? Isn't that what you normally do? NOT let the corpse rot somewhere? I actually expect that to have been a bad prank, but on the other hand, the games *have* killed characters, so I'm not going to be surprised either way.

ETA: Forgot to mention. LOVED working together with Tim to take down the Harley thugs. It's was a bit like the co-op feature could have been xD And Bruce being so supportive and his praise so abundant: "You're slow." Could've been worse, right? xD

ETA2: Just took out Charisma and had a look at the two Jason Todd memories. "I'm all right, Jas-Tim." Well, they could very well have taken the Lazarus Pit excuse. It was part of City, even though the one in Gotham was destroyed. But okay. I'm actually on board with the memories. It makes for a bigger impact than just hearing "he tortured me for six months!!!" or something. Then again. I like exploring fictional violence, and Joker's just having so much fun with it, it makes me go both aww :D for Joker and oh God D: for Jason. >>; ("I once had the voice of a soprano. Well, I had her vocal chords." << I love remarks like these. Reminds me of Hannibal xD)

Edited at 2015-06-27 08:28 pm (UTC)
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 27th, 2015 09:29 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOSH, I'm so sorry, fuck, I'm SOOOO SORRY, I had no idea the spoiler tags didn't work in notifications, shit, I'm so embarrassed, I hope I didn't screw you over too bad DX

I'm seriously impressed you got all those Riddler trophies in Asylum and YES, those stupid teeth were so annoying to track down!!

I've never played Injustice, mainly because I heard really messed up things about the characterisation - I'm a big Supes fan, I don't like him being done wrong. Plus I heard what happened to Dick in the tie-in comics. But I've also heard great things about Harley and Dinah, so I might look into it. I know there's an edition with extra content, I'll have to keep an eye out

Oh, I haven't played Harley's Knight DLC yet! I'm gonna wait until I complete the main story. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tim had the super close cropped hair in City, because I remember people online making comments about him looking like how they imagined an older Damian to look, more than any version of Tim. They've suuuper bulked him up, too, and he definitely seems designed to look older. But at least he still says stupid snarky shit like the Tim we know and love ;) Spoilers in the next sentence for the Christina fight, which I know you've said you've done, but just to be on the safe side: [spoilers for Christina fight] (I wasn't fast enough with Christina (girl took me by surprise) so my poor Timmy has a scratch down one side of his face)

I really thought I'd finish the main story today, but I got sidetracked by side missions AGAIN and now it's getting late and I've still got around 20% to go, so I'm gonna save it until tomorrow.

Before I got my PS3, I hadn't picked up a controller in a good long while. I still have my PS2, but it's been gathering dust. And I have a Wii, but I find using the controller tiring - my wrists are weak as hell, and I'm aching just from holding the PS4 controller, so you can imagine how much I suck at motion sensor games! XD But as soon as I got the PS3, I realised how much I missed it! I have so many games I never finished on the PS2, but between walkthroughs, youtube, easy mode, and regenerating health and endless lives and all other the other modern stuff, there are a lot more tools available that help make finishing PS3 and PS4 games possible, even for peeps like me who struggle. Finishing them makes them so much more fun! ;D

I got stuck on the third(?) Riddler challenge and gave up, so I don't know if it's revealed how Eddie took Selina. And I totally agree, there should be female henchpeople! Spoilers here for random thug dialogue, because I'm not sure if I heard it right and I couldn't stop and check because I was in the middle of a Man Bat quest: [spoilers for thug dialogue]I swear I heard a thug mention an all-woman gang or something - I don't know if they're actually IN the game, or maybe I imagined it, but I really hope I didn't

LOL I started shipping Harley/Christina the second she appeared! You'll have to link me, I'd love to see what you wrote!

The Barbara thing, urgh. I don't believe she's dead either - I think the game makers know they'd get raked over the coals for it. Barbara's so important to so many people, and they MUST have seen the backlash over what happened with her in the New 52. I mean, judging by the lack of sexual comments, they obviously listened to the complaints about City. They're not doing right by the ladies in this game, but I refuse to believe they went THAT far. I'm stubbornly holding on to the belief that it was a fear toxin hallucination or SOMETHING. Because you're right, Bruce wouldn't just walk away and leave her like that. And she was passed out when he got there, we didn't actually see the shot, and then she looked passed out again. I don't know, refusing to believe it, sticking my fingers in my ears, LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU GAME!!

Anyway, yeah, taking a break, charging up my stupid controller, and then I'll play again in the morning. Stupid addictive game! Although I HAAAAATE those horrid tank things that you have to shoot up the arse!! Who's idea was that!? I'm bad enough at stealth, and at driving, but STEALTH DRIVING!?!? Ffffffffffffrick! DX
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 27th, 2015 09:40 pm (UTC)
Your ETAs, which I just noticed:

Oh my God, Bruce's 'praise' cracks me up so damn bad, he's such an ARSE! But yesss, that's the kind of co-op I wish were more a part of core gameplay, not just thrown in every so often. Both fighting the thugs in stealth mode and the puzzle solving with Charisma.

I agree, narratively the memories provide fuel to the story, but oh God they make me squirm so bad. Poor Jason. D: There's something about playing a game that I find more visceral and investing than watching a film or reading a book, and that's saying something because I REALLY get involved in films and books! I guess it's the interactive element, the way you're made complicit in events. So having to 'activate' the memories, having to watch, it's a hell of a punch to the brain and the heart. (You should see me try and play horror games - I love scary movies, but scary games leave me a WRECK!) I don't want to go too deep into the memories, because I can't remember what order they happen in, but there was one moment in particular I did find hella clever. You'll have to let me know when you're through the Harley bit, I don't want to risk accidentally spoiling any more for you DX

And yes, that soprano line did crack me up - Joker's a gloriously evil little shit, and I'm loving the obvious jealousy Christina and Charisma displayed over Robin's presence. Them writing him like he's in love with Batman makes their relationship so much more twisted and fun
payasocrookedspoon on June 27th, 2015 11:18 pm (UTC)
Don't worry about the spoilers. They weren't bad ones. I came across one in an AO3 summary that was potentially worse than all of our comments combined. Harrumph >( In a summary! Bitch plz.

The Asylum trophies weren't that hard? I mean, I had help xD Plus, you don't have to travel as far as in Origins and City. UGH.

Ah, okay. I've never been a Supes fan, and if I'm honest, I've only started branching out from the Batman franchise last year when I revived my crush on Harley. I've always liked her and Joker, but I've never really been down to getting to know the DC Universe, because there's SO MUCH to backtrack and I used to be a completionist, I liked to start at the beginning, like, read the books/manga first, watch the movie/anime second. But I gave that up. For one, I'm a super slow reader, and for another, those super old comics don't interest me too much. I've read the first Batman issue and the one in which Scarecrow appears for the first time and DUDE, they're HILARIOUS with all the bad puns and everything xD So, now I'm okay with starting just about anywhere, but all those interwoven story-lines don't make me a happy panda if you need to have read all the other issues of another comic. That's why I like the tie-in comics to Injustice, because they're self-contained. AND they introduced me to SO many characters, it's awesome. And YES, I LOVE Harley in the Injustice comics and I do so ship her with Dinah, lol. I may not have read much, but it's the best representation of Harley in a comic I've yet seen, apart from the old Harley Quinn comic (of which I've only read a couple of episodes). So, for me, as a DC newbie who's never liked this supergood superhero type that Supes represents, these comics are a treasure xD

Yes, mine has a scratch down his face too! I only noticed after the King fight. That's why Batsie said we were slow xD I'm also disappointed about how easily Harley went down. What's up with the ladies in this game?

lol, yeah, all of my consoles are gathering dust as well. Mainly because I've stored them at my mother's when I moved for the second time. My current living arrangements are not for forever, and since I hate packing and moving, I didn't want to take even MORE stuff with me. Plus, I don't own a TV. I just got myself a monitor with HDMI this month so I could play Batman xD and then I had my mother send me my PS3, because I initially wanted to replay some of the other Arkham games, but got sidetracked with replaying Revelations 2 xD

LOL I started shipping Harley/Christina the second she appeared!
I know right! I knew you would, too. (We're so predictable, aren't we?) So, I gifted you the thing (that's a hazard when talking to me. I love using the AO3 gift function xD) but just in case. I'm super-sad Henry killed the other Jokers. Here I was already imagining what a ménage à quatre between them and Harley would look like, and then they go and drop them. I mean, I knew they wouldn't last, but I thought they'd be cured, and that they'd be around a little longer. Oh well, that's a plot twist for ya.

So, I'm through the Harley bit (but only just. Maybe I'm back with ETAs later). Let's talk memories! They reminded me a bit of what the Joker did to - was that Tim? - in Return of the Joker. He also tortured and brainwashed the little guy to become Joker Junior. "Now he's mine." Couldn't just let Bruce have all the Batkids to himself.

Joker's a gloriously evil little shit, and I'm loving the obvious jealousy Christina and Charisma displayed over Robin's presence.
Yes. Oh GOD. So much love for that. "He doesn't love you!!" I wouldn't actually have thought they'd go "this far," but it's certainly great. (And now I ship Charisma/Batsie, great xD) Poor Harley, though. I'm always getting all the Harley feels when Joker's near xD but I guess it's okay for Mr. J to want the Batbrain to himself? Because Harley's got Ivy, too?

Sorry for the many edits. My English has hiccups sometimes.

ETA: Now I'm going after the Cloudburst, but honestly, those are too many mega drones for me.

Also, Tim's so quick-witted. "That last cell's for you!" NO WAY xD

Edited at 2015-06-28 03:47 am (UTC)
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 28th, 2015 12:53 pm (UTC)
In a summary!? Oh, that's rough. Did they at least include a spoiler warning at the start of the summary? I basically haven't been on Tumblr to do anything other than check my messages and poke at my queue, let alone anywhere else, just to be on the safe side.

I didn't go looking for the Asylum trophies, but it's good to know they weren't bad. That's a good point about City, everything was so spread out. And if you cleared out a set of armed goons, did what you had to do, took a break and then realised you needed to be back in that same area, you had to take them all out again! DX

Oh God, I know what you mean about wanting to do the entire canon in order - I was the same, I had to start at the beginning, with the original media in every fandom I was in. Getting into comics was HARD, and required a lot of letting go of old habits and stumbling blind. Before I found Tumblr, I used to Google 'best Batman stories' and stuff like that, but I'd always end up with Fanboy!Bruce stories that way (where he's doing everything alone and the Batkids are absent or made useless to make Bruce look better, which is probably why I'm so bitter about it nowadays when I get confronted with that version of Gotham), and the extended Batfamily is the most interesting part of Batman for me. At least Tumblr can provide decent recs for Batkid and female friendly stories. Yeah, old school Silver Age comics are kind of ridiculous. I enjoy reading them for the WTF factor, and because they can be fun, but I can only read a few at a time, I can't splurge the way I can with more modern comics. I used to watch the Adam West Batman show as a kid, before Batman: The Animated Series was made and stole my heart, so those older comics remind me of the show. Holy corny jokes, Batman!

Okay, now I'm DEFINITELY going to have to check out Injustice, with a Harley recommendation like that! And yeah, being a Superman fan can be hard. The whole writing him as an all-American do-gooder hero perfect being is the Super equivalent of writing Bruce as a stoic lone wolf who doesn't need anyone else - it's sloppy writing that happens waaaaay too often for my liking. Especially when Clark guest stars in any Bat books - it's like they amp up the naive farmboy with no concept of city life and how GRITTY and REALISTIC Gotham is to 11. I like my Clark snarking at Bruce and them having a grumpy but loving married couple relationship, not Clark staring at him in wide-eyed gush-shucks awe or primly telling him off for being so brutal or scary gee whiz, thank you very much! XD

Man, the ladies in this game, don't get me started. DX

HAH, predictable but AWESOME, we are!! XD OH SHIT, I didn't realise you'd gifted it to me, I am TERRIBLE at checking my inbox, thank you so much, I'm gonna read it as soon as I've posted this comment!! I'm gutted too, that Henry took them out, because the dream of a DLC story with Harley and Christina wreeking merry havoc died with them. :(

Tim being all "GASP, it's YOU, YOU'RE INFECTED" at Bruce, like awww bless! Bruce has locked up the infected, even the old dude that apparently shows no symptons, but he's happily letting one of them run free around Gotham? And Tim STILL doesn't figure it out!? Guess all those "trained by the world's greatest detective" jokes from the comics don't apply to Arkham!Tim. XD

Yesss, there were definite parallels between this and Return Of The Joker. The moment I thought was a really smart inclusion was him showing Jason the photo of Tim as the new Robin, because that's the point where you can SEE Jason break, where he really realises Bruce isn't coming for him, and it's so hard to watch but such an important moment. Like, it makes it more believable, that he would have let go of himself at that point, that he could become the Arkham Knight. (If it turns out he ISN'T the Arkham Knight, I will probably throw my controller at the screen.) Also, daaaamn, at the Joker going through six months of torturing, breaking, and remolding Jason, getting him to the point where he'll blindly follow Joker's orders, and then SHOOTING HIM for following an order (giving up Batman's identity). Brrrrr, perfect way to show how unpredictable and terrifying Joker is
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 28th, 2015 12:54 pm (UTC)
Ran out of room!

Urgh, the cloud burst thing with the drones is HORRIBLE, that's why I didn't get as far as I wanted yesterday, it took soooooo long. I tried sneaking through the tunnels and popping up behind them, but after a while they started using the tunnels too! At one point, after regenerating back at the bridge, one of them instantly started heading straight to me, and I lost half my life in the first thirty seconds. Honestly, I just let them kill me a few times, because I lost so much life taking out the first couple that I figured there was no point spending 10 minutes on each one knowing how easily I could be killed. Getting all but one and THEN dying is the WORST. My hands are aching so bad from how tightly I was gripping the controller! But I DID eventually get through it. I'm hoping that'll be the last time we have to deal with them, because if they show up again I'm gonna cry! DX
payasocrookedspoon on June 28th, 2015 05:22 pm (UTC)
I don't think there was a spoiler warning per se, and I'm only going back after I've finished the game. It was like "[Person] is X (can't remember that one), [other person] is Y, and [yet another person] is POTENTIAL MAJOR FUCKING SPOILER." I haven't been around the internet much either. Just once on Youtube to search for the first appearance of Scarecrow where he says "I am in complete control" and surrenders. I mean, hot damn, I want to be as fucking calm as that guy.

Yes, Oh God, exactly! I wanted to go get the Catwoman trophies in the Steel Mill, but boy are there many armed goons! Can't take them out with Cats. Haven't actually tried taking them out with Bats, switching characters and then going back again. Should do that sometime.

That's the trouble with recs, you can't always rely on them if you don't know the person. Like, I read the Long Halloween because it's praised everywhere, but I couldn't get into it because WHAT IS THIS STYLE? Or, people have praised the Suicide Squad, and maybe the ones before the reboot were good, I haven't read 'em, but the ones after, with Harley? Not so great. There was this one story arc with Joker that I found rather chilling but otherwise that was it. Too much over the top action for my taste xD Any recs for Batfam stories? I've been meaning to read more on Dick et al, but there are so many other comics to read, I barely know where to start xD

I think I remember watching some of the old Batman show, or some of the later movies. I've only ever known Batman from mainstream media xD And BTAS Bruce is another example of the do-gooder hero type that I can't stand xD Like, everything he does is so morally correct and stuff. I like the grittier Batman better, even if it irks me that he lies to Alfred about "faulty comms" xD But it's got more character than doing the Right Thing all the time.

I find being a Harley fan can be hard too. Maybe my image of her is warped because I've loved her for so long without knowing much of what's been done with her, but most of the time I'm disappointed in her portrayal. Okay then, prepare for facepalming in Injustice. Supes does what he thinks is right, but he's often so whiney and blah. Going by the trailer of Batman v Superman, Injustice seems to follow the same principle, only on a MUCH grander scale, which makes it more believable in my eyes. This One Hero to Save World trope has become annoying.

Don't worry about not having seen the notif. I know not everyone is sitting on their inbox like I am doing when I'm supposed to be writing, which is why I mentioned it here xD

the dream of a DLC story with Harley and Christina wreeking merry havoc died with them. :(
Oh man, that would've been BRILLIANT! Well, there's still fanfic? I'll be more than happy to ignore that part. And also how easily Batsie slung Harley over his shoulder, and how meekly she went into the quarantine cells. I mean, how lazy was that? Harley's reactions in this game series doesn't speak of a lot of attachment to the Joker. (Although on the other hand I'm glad she's not some whiney chick but able to keep her own crew... even if they all prove to be useless xD)

Also, one Charisma line that cracked me up the most: "Let's make sweet music together" x'D

God yes, the one with the photograph was killer. "See, he just replaced you, you never meant anything." (Though, if he IS the Arkham Knight, which at this point would be majorly disappointing if he wasn't, because of all the red herrings this game would have thrown our way, I'm going to be miffed at whoever thought it would be a good idea to give out a Red Hood DLC from the very beginning and basically spoil the surprise.) The shot! I think that was brilliantly Joker. He'd broken the boy, playing with him wasn't fun anymore.

I tried the Cloudburst thing again today, but I'm actually glad I'm stuck there, because it forces me to abandon the game for a bit and get back to work xD Those epic tank battles always leave my hands aching, too. The one I hated was with the chopper overhead. In the first Scarecrow Nightmare DLC mission, which is just another AR Batracing simulation boo, you'll have to fight a chopper, too. And, if you want all 3 stars, you'll have to finish this course in under 4 minutes, wtf? xD No can do, sir!
payasocrookedspoon on June 29th, 2015 04:12 am (UTC)
So, since I'm stuck again AND can't sleep, I thought I'd share my progress. There's only 13% of the main mission left. I assume you're through by now, But just in case: [Mini-spoiler]Drill?

And YES; I hope that was the last we've seen of these Cobra drones. Every time I close my eyes I see them patrolling the streets! (lol, but that's not the reason I can't sleep.) GOD, that last time I took out all the drones and only had to deal with the Cloudburst, that thing blew me up and I was like "NOO, don't make me go through the whole ordeal again," but bless these new age games and auto-saving in the middle of boss fights. The developers know most gamers can't handle as much frustration as they used to xD At least the casual ones can't.

And the MAJOR SPOILER turned out to be true. [Hint]Ivy. I wonder whether I should berate whoever posted that fic to not post fucking spoilers to something that isn't even out a week!

I kind of don't like that Scarecrow and Ivy are so at odds in this game. Way to destroy one of my OT3s. I thought they could be science pals or something.

Still don't like Scarecrow's voice. It's an epic voice, but every time he uses the comms it takes a moment to register who's speaking.

On the topic of voices. Love the Knight's though. When I'm done with this game I'll have all of his You're Dead dialogue down pat. "Look at me when you're dying, Batman. Look. At. Me." xD I wanna know what equipment they used to record, because the voices are so clear, it's amazing.

Also love how philosophical Crane is about fear. "It's the absence of hope" blah blah. Cracks me up. Why does HE actually want the Bat to suffer so much?
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on June 29th, 2015 10:59 am (UTC)
Aah, the Batfamily and their ridiculous history. I don't know if you download comics or not, but if you do comicmasterpost has a LOT of stuff (some links work, some don't). Their full list is here, and you can scroll down to Batgirl, Batman, or Robin to see really good masterposts of their stuff. If you're looking for a decent place to start, and you haven't read it yet, Knightfall is very good. It was rereleased a couple of years ago as three big-ass books (there were earlier editions, but they only contained a condensed version of the story, since there are shitloads of tangents, but the newer books have EVERYTHING). It's VERY 90s, but it involved a major upheaval of the Batfamily, including Tim officially going out into the field plus Bruce and Dick finally getting their shit together after years of being more or less estranged after Bruce fired Dick from being Robin.

If you want to go back even further for Tim, check out Lonely Place Of Dying for Tim's debut (the book is expensive on the secondhand market and hasn't been rereleased in years (there's a reference to the Twin Towers that is probably the reason why) but you can download it here), plus the three Robin mini series shown at the top here. The main ongoing series beneath those is what begins in Knightfall.

Dick's masterpost is here, and his 1995 mini and Alfred Returns happen directly after Knightfall (I thiiiink Alfred's Return happens before the mini, but I can't 100% remember). Then it goes into his ongoing series, which is where he decides to take on Bludhaven as his city. If you want to skip all the Knightfall stuff, you could easily start with the Nightwing ongoing series, because it's very much a clean slate for Dick. There are some crossovers, I'm not sure if they're included in the links, if you ever get stuck for stuff feel free to poke me.

No Man's Land is also another huge Bat event, if you haven't read it, and all the ongoing Bat titles, including Tim's Robin series and Dick's Nightwing series, get involved. Although it does that thing I actually LIKE in big crossover events, where most series involved have their own contained story, instead of having to buy EVERY issue as the story bounces through each title. It's another one that had a recent rerelease with the complete crossover to replace the earlier books that only had a partial story. There are four books. This is also the event that introduces Cass Cain, the next Batgirl. There are also three stories preceding No Man's Land that set up the event: Legacy, Contagion, and Catacylsm. (Can't remember what order they go in, but it's easy enough to figure out if you download them.) Both Knightfall and No Man's Land had a big influence on the plot of The Dark Knight Rises.

...I'm probably reccing you stuff you've already read, sorry. But those are probably the best Big Events that set up the Batfamily in the modern pre-52 era, with Batman RIP being the next big one. If you want any more specific recs, I'll do my best! :D
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Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 26th, 2015 10:43 pm (UTC)
Urgggh, I suck - I did the thing where I forgot to reply, and then I kept telling myself I would when I got online again, and then it became A Thing where it had been too long, and I kept delaying because it was too long since I last replied, even though I KNEW that would just make it longer and, urgh, I suck. DX

Anyway, I take it you've played through the Batgirl DLC now? I haven't actually bought it yet, because I keep hearing reports about it being suuuper short, like as short as the Harley DLC that came with Knight, so I'm not sure whether to get it or not. I'd love your opinion on how much you enjoyed it, it would really help me decide whether to buy it. :)

The Honest Game Trailer was awesome, I love them so much, and that stupid Man Bat jump scare GOT ME AGAIN!!!

I have no idea how big my screen is, but it's not that big? Like, it's big compared to the one I had before, but small compared to the one in the living room? But I didn't notice the Harvey and Pengy stuff either. although, to be fair, during the Penguin missions all I cared about was Dick, so I wasn't even LOOKING at Penguin half the time! ;D But yeah, it was REAL noticeable on Ivy - maybe because we pay so much more attention to her, because she's so awesome?

I'm not sure if Infamous was an indie game or not, but it definitely feels like one at times. A well made one, even when some dodgy controls, but just lacking the bells and whistles you often get in games. Even ones from a fair few years ago.

Oh God, that stupid Elliot hospital riddle!! Like, I'm literally looking right at a sign that SAYS Elliot Hospital but noooooo, I have to be on a different level and looking at a different sign that says THE SAME THING!! Yeah, that bugged the hell out of me too! And I don't remember that glide and jump thing in Origins, but it makes me even more glad I didn't play the games back to back - it's hard enough for me to get into the habit of certain controls, but to have them randomly changed would throw me soooo much. Whenever I play a new game, I STILL keep finding myself trying to use the controls from the last game I played and wondering why the characters aren't responding properly! XD

I looooved that episode of BTAS! When Tim's walking away after Bruce almost tricks him into letting Bruce go, and Bruce is just screaming at him, it's so damn effective!

I haven't watched Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, although I actually think it's on UK Netflix (which doesn't have much anime). Yeah, shounen is funny like that. But it's always a real punch to the gut when the trope gets turned on its head. Like in One Piece - nobody ever dies, even bad guys can turn up randomly many story arcs later and fit seamlessly back into the plot, people can only die in flashbacks. So when somebody finally DOES die, not in flashbacks but in the main plot, and a popular character to boot, it's so damn heartbreaking and really sets important shit in motion.

Argh, I'm too tired to be articulate, I have to go to bed, but I wanted to actually get my shit together and reply before I did, so sorry if any of this is nonsensical DX
payasocrookedspoon on July 27th, 2015 12:25 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I do so know how that works. If I don't write back right away I'll forget and then it'll get harder and harder to actually do it, because oh no, it's been so long since the last reply. So I'm really happy you faced it and wrote back! :D

Yes, I did play through the Batgirl DLC (and I watched the Red Hood DLC because I want to write a story about him after the events of AK and am trying to figure shit out. It was super short, but the moves, man). It was short, but not as short as the Harley DLC. Somwhere in between the new and the old Harley DLC perhaps? I don't remember the Revenge one so well, so idk... It may have been an hour of gameplay and a bit more for the side stuff. You can actually get a couple more trophies than just the I Played The Thing one. It's fun and cute but if you were looking for something that ties in with the Arkham Knight story, no deal. It's a standalone both in content and in setting. There's an oil rig that has been transformed into a funland, where Joker and his goons have taken Gordon and some other police hostages that you have to save. You get to go off alone as Babs as well as fight in tandem with Tim. What I loved was discovering "the secret behind the theme park" thing. I didn't even know there was something like that (there's a trophy for that but I didn't look at the list until after I finished) and I found recorded messages from the previous owner while exploring the park. So that was pretty neat. And, once again, I loved the random thug dialogues. This time they were even better, because they kept talking about this one goon and what had happened to him and everyone had a different version of what happened! However, I can't tell you if that's worth 6 quid especially since you can just it on youtube.

I wonder if this Season of Infamy DLC that I heard about is going to be a bit more. I also read that WB wanted to develop a Suicide Squad spin-off game based on the Arkhamverse since 2012.

God, yesterday I fell into another Honest Trailer hole and watched some for the movies I haven't seen yet. Seriously, have a look at the Guardians of the Galaxy one if you don't know that already. The ending is brill.

Yeah, me too. I was so happy to see Dick with an actual voice role that I didn't care about anything else. Which reminds me that I had a look at Injustice to see whether he was there as well and indeed he was. I kind of forgot half the characters you could play with. But, lawd, the controls suck. They're super slow. I didn't notice it that badly when I first played it but I guess Knight's controls have spoiled me xD Anyway, the only thing I noticed about Harv was the scorched half of his suit xD And I had another look at Ivy in her showcase (the character trophy thing) and there I thought it worked. Plus you can see all the shiny little leaves on her skin.

I have all the showcases now except for one suit. I wonder how I unlock that one. (Probably some retail-exclusive shite) I'm at 100% of the main game now and have played a bit of the New Story+. Its difficulty is set to "Knightmare" and I agree xD Anyway, if you get all the Riddler trophies you can unlock tapes that shed a bit more light on some of the questions we had. Like, why are Crane and the Knight working together, how did Riddler manage to snatch the Cat, why was Riddler not with the others, etc? I listened to them on youtube before I ever got any of them. The Riddler tapes are entertaining. (Getting the trophies here isn't as much of a headache as it was in City, where I still don't have all. You just need a little help from yt at times xD)
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 27th, 2015 09:33 pm (UTC)
It's good the Batgirl DLC isn't as short as the Harley Knight DLC, cool. I was just getting concerned, because it was being pushed as more substantial, but then all these headlines were saying it was no more than 40 minutes of gameplay. I liked the City Harley DLC, and the Origins Frozen Heart one (was that DLC? I don't even remember now), so it's a shame it doesn't quite get to those lengths, but oh well. Honestly, I probably am just gonna get it, because it's Batgirl, plain and simple. But I think I just needed to be more aware of what I was getting, so I wasn't expecting something more than it was. and it sounds fun, so yeah, I'll maybe get it this week, if I have an afternoon where I'm feeling focused. :)

Hopefully the later DLC is meatier, though. Is the Season Of Infamy one that one that's supposed to have loads of villains in? Because it really feels they couldn't do them all justice unless they made it a decent length. Ooooh, a Suicide Squad game set in the Arkham universe would be v cool, especially since they've already introduced a number of relevant characters (especially if they go with the movie line-up).

Hah, I do that, fall into an endless spiral of Honest Trailers or whatever else has caught my eye. In fact, I'm probably gonna end up doing that right now, after watching the GOTG one. Hah, the bit with Clark screaming. ...I kind of want to watch Man Of Steel tomorrow after seeing it, though. XD

Oh dear about the Injustice controls! Arkham Knight definitely spoiled us - after playing that and the lack of loading screens, I was getting super impatient playing Infamous any time it had to load. XD

I have hardly any of the showcase thingies!! I don't know why, I should really look up what you have to do to get them. Maybe it's because I have to play the game on easy? Maybe they only unlock on Normal or above? You're 100% of the main game? Does that mean you got ALL the Riddler trophies!?! If so, holy shit, I tip my imaginary hat to you! Hell, I would go and FIND a hat, just so I could put it on and tip it to you!! The tapes sound very cool, though :)
payasocrookedspoon on July 28th, 2015 11:39 pm (UTC)
Yes, the Frozen thing was a DLC. One of the reviewers mentioned that it was a more satisfying DLC than the ones we've been getting so far. I don't care too much about Mr. Freeze, but it was a good DLC anyway, especially since it shed some light on his background, if I remember correctly. So it wasn't only good, but relevant, too. If you're getting it, just remember that it takes about 3 hours to load.

Yeah, I hope so, too. I think it is, I haven't heard from any other DLC apart from racetracks and stuff. I've gotta say, racing through Gotham is actually fun, if it doesn't involve Riddler-type obstacles. And if you're well rested from all the militia hunting you had to do in the side missions, lol.

I still haven't seen Man of Steel. Or well, much of anything xD I still need to catch up with the latest Marvel movies. I think I might avoid getting sucked into the fandom, because it's too big for me now. So I can safely watch the movies without going, "omfg, must write." xD

Oah, loading screens always make me super impatient xD I didn't even notice what they meant until I played one of my other games. I mean, those reload screens got on my nerves too, and they counted as loading screens in my book, so.

You can get the showcases through certain Riddler trophies. It has nothing to do with the Difficulty, since unlike previous games you can adjust it while playing. Which is what I did when I kept dying one time too often xD I told myself I'd try the Batman games on Normal every since I learned that the trophies you get for completing the Asylum game are stackable, i.e. if you play on Normal you automatically unlock the Easy one, too. I didn't know that back then. So the last time I played, I tried out Hard, but I'm stuck in the first Bane fight, lol. And yes, I have ALL the shiny ridiculous annoying Riddler trophies. :D They aren't as hard as the ones in City. Most of them are just lying around somewhere and you just have to pick them up. A fun - but occasionally annoying - addition was having to race from a set of coordinates to the trophy. Mostly, I stuck to the rooftops, because grappling and gliding was faster than going by Batmobile.

Btw, I finally managed to read the Under the Hood storyline. Thanks again for reccing it, it was fantastic. :D I've also started reading The Lost Days, trying to figure out what I can translate to the idea I had for the Arkhamverse, or if I should just drop it entirely because it's not workable with both Joker and Bruce dead. The comicbook storyline just makes so much more sense. Arkhamverse is more like entitled brat with abandonment issues? Idk. I mean, shouldn't he have started hating Joker more instead of Bruce? I get headaches trying to unravel this.

ETA: Forgot to mention I recorded one of your ficlets (the cute one with Dick and Harley). :D

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Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 29th, 2015 08:46 pm (UTC)
Ahhh, I'm glad the Frozen thing was DLC, it's nice to know my memory DOES work once in a while! XD And thanks for the warning about the downloading time - I always forget how damn long that stuff takes. Especially when it's something you KNOW is reasonably short, rather than a full game. Like the Final Fantasy XV demo - it was just a DEMO, a small area to run around in and a minor boss fight, but it still took sooooo long to download and install.

Man Of Steel's a good film. It kind of divided fans, because DC continue their trend of their films being as dark and gritty as possible, and they definitely tried to apply that to Superman, with mixed results. I do get why people didn't like it, all the arguments I've seen are totally valid, and I honestly would have preferred something a bit more lighthearted and hopeful for my Supes, but I do still like MOS for what it is. And Henry Cavill is so fine, oh my god.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe fandom is huuuuge, holy crap. But in a way, that actually suits me. I just tinker at the edges, doing my thing, not getting involved in any of the various big name sections. In a small fandom, it's harder to just do your thing at your own pace because there's a more tightknit community, which is actually really nice to be part of but can put more pressure on when it comes to creating fanworks. I do NOT work well under pressure. DX The only MCU part of fandom I feel actively a part of is at Drabbletag, which is the case for a LOT of my fandoms.

Oh yeah, those reloading screens on Arkham Knight were a paaaaain. Like, I KNOW I died AGAIN, you don't need to show me the same few frames OVER and OVER, I remember the plot!! But at least we didn't have to suffer through those randomly throughout the game, waiting for new sections and bossfights to load up every time - that's something. ;D

Ooooh, I didn't realise it was the trophies that did it when it comes to unlocking the showcases! I assumed it was to do with story/mission completion, so I didn't understand why I hadn't gotten, say, the Two-Face showcase even though I'd completed his side mission. That makes a lot of sense. Uuuurgh, I didn't like the 'race from one part of Gotham to the other' trophies, but I hadn't thought to just jump out of the Batmobile. (I'm not too sharp, clearly.) You're so right, it's much faster to glide and grapple than fight those annoying-ass driving controls.

I'm so glad you liked the Under The Hood story!! Lost Days is really good, but you're right, it might be awkward to fit it into Arkhamverse. I don't know if it's specifically mentioned how long it is between Jason getting away from the Joker and the events of Arkham Knight? Like, Jason mentions being trapped in the Asylum with Joker for a year, I think? But I don't know if he got out before the events of AA, or after them but before AC, I'm not sure. But I'm sure you could fudge it any way you want to make it suit you. Maybe just take any bits and pieces you like from Lost Days to use, and discard the rest? I wonder if they'll do an Arkhamverse comic about Jason in the future, that would be cool. But yeah, in Arkhamverse it doesn't make a huge amount of sense that he hates Bruce but doesn't seem to care about the Joker. Like, the Joker's dead and there are whispers in the underworld that Batman did it - comic!Jason would actually be PLEASED about that. I guess it falls into what we talked about before, how once the reveal happens Jason's purpose is apparently served and we don't get much more decent story about him. If we saw more conflict in him, about the version of him Joker created fighting against the person he used to be, it would work better. But we just get 'oh well, guess I'm all better now because I've painted a Bat on my chest and saved Bruce's life, tralala'.

Grrrrr, I don't know what's happening, but I can't get on to AO3? Which is weird, because I only used it half an hour ago. Ooop, just looked at their Twitter and the whole site is down, shiiiiit! I'm gonna keep trying for the rest of the evening, because I reeeeeeally want to hear your recording! :D
payasocrookedspoon on July 29th, 2015 10:37 pm (UTC)
lol yeah, I downloaded the DC Online game (which I still haven't started up lol) and it took DAYS xD but now that I use my PS4 for streaming services like Amazon Instant Video it can just do its thing while I waste my time watching stuff. (Amazon Prime has a lot things included. I watched Green Lantern: Emerald Knights and the first two episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and RoboCop, lol, for Joel Kinnaman who plays Rick in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie. I also watched Halt and Catch Fire, which is a brilliant series about computer and game development in the 1980s in case you don't know it. My friend has been reccing it to me since season 1 but yeah, streaming via laptop isn't as cozy as doing it via PS4.)

Amazon has an okay selection of movies, but unfortunately for me, MOST of them are not in the original language and I really HATE dubs. (Err, well, that's probably irrelevant to you because in the UK most movies would be English xD) They also don't have subs. I've come to like watching English shows with French subtitles, because it's hilarious and educational. :D

Okay, if I get the chance to watch MOS, I'll do it. I'm a horrible lemming after all. WATCH ALL THE THINGS. In big fandoms, I usually feel like I just don't know enough of the canon unless I have fine-tooth-combed it like I'm doing with half the Arkhamverse now. And that's really blocking me. I used to write a bit for the Sherlock fandom, but there are SO many intelligent people there that it really pressured me. I feel like I'd have to emulate more smarts than I can muster to write something good for the fandom, which is total crap of course, because I've written enough things that haven't been torn to shreds for being preposterous or anything. And I'm like you in that I do my own thing. Why are smaller communities more pressure? I get it from the I Want to be the First to Write This standpoint (which I often fall prey to. Hello, Harley/Deadshot on Arrow). Or, putting out stuff while there isn't much of it yet. I don't work well under pressure either, or when I have too many projects that are demanding my attention. But I find that deadlines keep me writing, otherwise I'd just stop and never anything done, even if my vague ideas would still keep annoying me. xD

SOME side-missions unlocked concept art and showcases, but others didn't. Idk. What's also nice is that Riddler will comment on how many riddles you've solved, especially when you're getting close xD I just love grappling way more than Batmobiling. Especially since you can glide higher now after diving with R2. So much fun. What's also great are the Boost Out of Batmobile upgrades you can buy.

I checked one of Joker's quotes in AA and he says "I ight even give you Harley. It looks like you could use a new sidekick. (And why are there no comprehensive scripts of the game, so I wouldn't have to click my way through YT all the time?) So Joker probably still has Jason locked up somewhere, because it sounds like Joker either doesn't know about Tim yet, or Batman hasn't recruited him yet. And half a year in, Joker shows Jason the picture of Bats with his new Robin. How long was it between AA and AC? I mean, Jason was in South America(?) where he built his militia or started to, if I remember the random thug comments correctly. He's have to have had funds to pay the guys even before he went to Scarecrow.

But anyway, that's not what I'm going to write about anyway, I want the part between AK and the Red Hood DLC or thereabouts, lol. The militia thugs mention him being "a mess" after the showdown. I don't know about flashbacks yet. (Why do I want to do this to myself?!) We'll find out about Jason as the Arkham Knight in the next couple of months because YES there will be a mini-series on him. I think the first issue comes out next month? The whole 6 issues can already be pre-ordered on Amazon but won't come out before February.

Also, got your comments and I'm so glad you like it! <3 It was a ton of fun to read 8D

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Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 31st, 2015 08:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, at least with the PS4 I can put it in rest mode while it downloads, so I don't have to worry about it turning itself off or the controller running out of battery or something if I leave it overnight. I have Amazon Prime streaming too, and yesss, there's lots of awesome DC animated stuff on there.

Oh, that sucks about so many movies being dubs. Yeah, I'm lucky in that most big names movies are in English. when I watch non-English films, I have to watch in the original language with subs, because otherwise I get distracted by the timing being off between lip movement and the words, so I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for that being the default choice for you. :( Although I tend to use subtitles for everything I watch anyway, because my hearing isn't great and I miss stuff otherwise, and the subtitles Amazon Prime uses are teeeeeeny tiny, it's ridiculous!

Ahhh, yeah, I used to be like that with big fandoms - I'd get nervous that I hadn't watched the source material fifty million times, that I'd make a mistake, or that I'd be writing something that looooads of people had written before and I'd embarrass myself by just creating a pale imitation. Funnily enough, getting into comics fandom helped me let go of those hang ups, because it's basically IMPOSSIBLE to be familiar with ALL the source material. And staying on the fringes of fandom and concentrating more on writing than reading helped with the fear of writing something somebody's written before - if I haven't read it, then it won't bother me, ignorance will be bliss. The only place I regularly read fanfic now is at femslash100, because it's such a nice community and I like commenting and supporting everyone. Oh God, I get so nervous writing for smart characters too! Like, anything MCU that involves scientists, which is a LOT of the characters, makes me really anxious that I'll just be showing off how uneducated I am. DX
Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 31st, 2015 08:43 pm (UTC)
I think the reason I get nervous in smaller fandoms is just from experience. Like, getting comments that just say "write more" or "you should write [this pairing] instead" or something like that, something that basically is asking for more - comments like that seem to happen a LOT more in smaller fandoms or newer fandoms. Which makes sense, because there's obviously not a lot of fic to go around, so people are clamouring for more. But once I start getting a majority of those comments, I start to freak myself out, like I start worrying because it's like no matter how much I write, I'm just being asked for more, you know? It isn't usually a problem, I actually love those comments and take them as a compliment, because if someone wants me to write more then they like my writing and that's awesome. But when it's a smaller fandom and those are the ONLY comments I'm getting? I psych myself out, because I push myself too hard to write everything people are asking for and end up writing nothing. It doesn't really make sense, probably, it's just my brain being ridiculous to me. :(

Oooh, that's a good point about the timeline. Tim does seem to be considered new in City, if I remember? Like, he hasn't been Robin all that long, and Bruce (or maybe Babs) gets worried about him working alone in the Harley DLC? I don't remember so well. I guess there can't have been that big a gap between AA and AC then. But it seems like there SHOULD have been a big gap between AC and AK, because it would have taken Jason time to establish himself and gain followers who had so much faith in him, but then it can't have been THAT much time between the two games, since Joker dies in AC and the infected Jokers haven't been kept Bat prisoners all that long - it's not Bruce can keep them locked up for YEARS. There's a bit in the opening monologue for AK where Gordon's talking about how after Arkham City is destroyed, no villains tried anything for a while (until the start of AK, obviously) but I can't remember if he gives a specific timeline. I don't know. I don't even know if Rocksteady knows!!

Yesss, everything that happens to Jason after AK is potentially super interesting, I wanna write some stuff for it myself. I can't wait to see what you come up with! I should watch the Red Hood DLC on youtube, I'll do that tomorrow. And I'm gonna download the Batgirl DLC next week, I think, because I won't have time this weekend, unless I squeeze it in tomorrow evening, and I wanna take my time with it instead. And YAY to there being a mini series for Jason! :D
payasocrookedspoon on August 1st, 2015 03:19 am (UTC)
I think I've programmed my PS4 to suspend everything when going in rest mode? Idk, never tried it. So far, I haven't downloaded anything that I *needed* to have right away but couldn't sit next to while it loads.

THERE ARE SUBTITLES ON AMAZON PRIME? Why doesn't it give me that option?! There are some things that are labeled "Original with subtitles" but then the subtitles will be in German and I'll be distracted by the quality of the translation. Okay, the French subtitles aren't always 100% but that's okay, because I actually learn how the French would say it. I thought the subtitles in Arkham Knight were teeny tiny, but that may have been because I played the other three games on a screen that was twice the size of my current monitor? Hm.

Yes, writing for comic fandoms really helps, though I still think I should be familiar with the things the cool kids read xD Or, I don't know, it just helps me form a better image of the characters, especially when it comes to all the teensy detail shit, like likes/dislikes, favourite anything or childhood memories, which I'm particularly bad at. Part of why Sherlock is so hard for me to write: he notices all the important details, and I couldn't even come up with half of them. For someone who strings a lot of words together, I'm quite unimaginative xD I also focus more on writing than on reading, but often I think I should read more just to get new ideas, even if it's just what to do with words. I've been writing so much it all kinda starts to sound the same and I cringe every time I use a phrase I know I've used several times already elsewhere. I can obsess a lot about phrasing and stuff, especially word counts. Or repetitions. In one fic I wrote 2 years ago, I would not allow the repetition of a more uncommon word if I could help it. You know, like, screw the plot, I have to scrub all the words! Style over content xD It's similar with my choice of reading. I forgive a lot if the writing is compelling, but also if the writing isn't that good but the characterisation spot-on.

As for reading, track a lot of comms for prompts and will sometimes read creations if I know the fandom. But I currently participate most in femslash100 or the weekend challenges at 1-million-words, which are what usually drive me to get my random throwaway ideas out. I also wrote für comicdrabbles a couple of times, but after I broke my streak two weeks ago I'm kinda like meh, let's chill and (not-)write all the challenges from the beginning, lol.

Oh, wow. Okay, that would definitely pressure me too! It sounds like they're not appreciating what you're already doing. Or it can feel that way. The comments asking me for more are usually more the encouraging sort, like "I hope you write more" and as far as I remember no one has ever asked me to write such and such pairing. That's a bit rude, actually, unless you're open for suggestions on what to write. Sometimes it sucks to be good at what you do, because then everyone will seemingly leave it all up to you to do the thing. I mean, obviously I also want you to write more and more - because your prose is amazing, you really have a way with words - but at your own time, you know? It's hard for me to churn out piece after piece and keep the quality up, so I wouldn't demand it of anyone else either.
payasocrookedspoon on August 1st, 2015 03:20 am (UTC)
Oh right, I remember having been asked for a continuation of a Sherlock genderswap fic i wrote last year, which I even wanted to do, but the thing was emotionally so taxing and the characterisation/relationship/theme/whatever so complicated that I still haven't done it. xD I wanted to have it done last year, but yeeeah, that worked out really well. At least no one has bothered me about it this year. They must have noticed that I'm unreliable when it comes to writing xD

And actually, it does make a lot of sense to me. I have quite a number of things I want to write and some things I *need* to write (promised people, etc) and then there's challenges I want to participate in but can't come up with anything. All of that will stress me out. Like, in July there were at least 4 different challenges I wanted to participate in (some of which I could have combined), 3 of which demanded at least 1k of fic. One also allowed art and that was the one I didn't manage to do anything for. SADNESS. So yeah, I get the being overwhelmed and not writing anything. It's really starting to piss me off, though, because my number of WIPs is getting more not less. Nor is the number of challenges that divide my attention even more. orz Sometimes I wish I could just write fanfic all day without having to worry about anything else. At least for the next couple of years until I run out of steam. xD

Oooh, that's an interesting point on Tim, I didn't remember that at all! The gap between AC and AK is about a year. Yeah, I wonder if rocksteady knows, the timeline is all jumbled as fuck xD Like, Assault on Arkham is supposed to take place two years after AO, and yet Harley still calls herself a "one-man kinda gal" or something xD Okay, I think we can disregard the movie from the rocksteady timeline, but even so it's mighty confusing. Let's see what the comic has to say about it xD

I'm super interested in what you come up with :D Mine's probably going to take a while, if I ever manage to start. I kinda want to write it for the DCU Big Bang, because I can't seem to get started on my pornstar AU either. It'll be posting in October. But I also have about 1k of a Suicide Squad fic that seems to be going nowhere that I also kinda want to brush up for the fest, you know? xD

lol, I hope you find a better version of the Red Hood DLC than the one I watched. The player must have been distracted or something, because they combat was bad enough for me to wish I could have picked up the controller myself! xD
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Salmon Pinksalmon_pink on July 29th, 2015 10:33 pm (UTC)
Oh my gosh, I got AO3 to work, and I LOVE IT!!! ♥